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02/08/2018 01:00 PM House TRANSPORTATION

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01:44:57 PM Start
01:45:25 PM HB259
02:07:07 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+= HB 259 CONFINING VEHICLE LOADS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 259(TRA) Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Invited/Public> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                 HB 259-CONFINING VEHICLE LOADS                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:45:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WOOL announced that the only order of business would be                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 259, "An Act relating to containing or confining                                                                 
loads being transported on highways."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:45:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES  made  a  motion  to  adopt  the  proposed                                                               
committee  substitute  (CS)  for  HB  259,  labeled  30-LS0917\I,                                                               
Martin,  2/5/18,  as  the  working  document.    There  being  no                                                               
objection, Version I was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:45:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATT GRUENING, Staff, Representative  Louise Stutes, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  on  behalf   of  the  prime  sponsor   of  HB  259,                                                               
Representative Stutes,  explained that there were  two changes to                                                               
the proposed committee substitute (CS)  for HB 259, Version I, as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 16:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
      Added an exemption for vehicles that are removing or                                                                      
     hauling snow                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 20:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Changed "physical injury" to "serious physical injury"                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRUENING   explained  that  the  first   change  relates  to                                                               
municipal  vehicles  that clear  snow  from  the roadway.    This                                                               
exemption covers vehicles, such as  front loaders and dump trucks                                                               
that do  not often  cross roadways.   Allowing these  vehicles to                                                               
remove snow  seemed to  create less  of a  hazard for  the public                                                               
than to slow the snow removal process, he said.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRUENING said  the  second change  addresses  an issue  that                                                               
arose at the  last hearing.  This language  would further clarify                                                               
that the injuries  resulting from unsecure loads  in question are                                                               
very "serious physical  injuries."  He pointed out  that the bill                                                               
has a  zero fiscal note  from the Department of  Transportation &                                                               
Public Facilities (DOT&PF).                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:47:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  asked  how  a person  "moving"  a  motor                                                               
vehicle is  being defined.   For example, would moving  a vehicle                                                               
apply to a  person pushing the vehicle or a  non-owner moving the                                                               
vehicle.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRUENING  offered his  belief  that  physically pushing  the                                                               
vehicle is  considered "moving" the  vehicle; however,  this bill                                                               
only applies to vehicles on a highway.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:48:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  related a scenario  in which a  tow truck                                                               
was called  to tow a crashed  vehicle and arrived to  discover an                                                               
unsecured load  but did  not have  a tarp  or other  materials to                                                               
secure the load.  He asked  whether the tow-truck driver would be                                                               
subject to penalties.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING  said that the  sponsor had not  considered vehicles                                                               
towing other vehicles, but he  thought the sponsor would consider                                                               
how this affected tow trucks.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:49:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WOOL  stated that  HB 259  applies to  "a highway."   He                                                               
asked for clarification on which  roads were included in a strict                                                               
definition of "highway."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.   GRUENING   answered   deferred   to   the   Department   of                                                               
Transportation & Public Facilities to respond.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:50:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JASON  SAKALASKAS,  Engineer,   Northern  Region,  Department  of                                                               
Transportation  & Public  Facilities (DOT&PF),  acknowledged that                                                               
Alaska  has "designated  highway  systems."   He  stated that  he                                                               
would need  to further  research which  highways are  included in                                                               
the definition and report back to the committee.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:51:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND stated  that  her  district has  several                                                               
major  highways plus  several  state-operated roadways  including                                                               
Northern  Lights Boulevard,  Tudor  Road,  and Benson  Boulevard.                                                               
She asked whether this bill would  apply to a violation on one of                                                               
the  state-operated roadways  in Anchorage  noting these  streets                                                               
have frequent stop signals.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRUENING answered  that the  definition for  highways is  in                                                               
current law  and the bill uses  the term "highway.".   He offered                                                               
his belief  that if the  road is  not designated as  a "highway,"                                                               
the language  in Version  I would  not apply.   He  suggested the                                                               
sponsor would be amenable to discussing other roadways.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:52:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND  asked  whether the  sponsor's  district                                                               
"may  or may  not"  have  [major] highways.    In  response to  a                                                               
request for  further clarification, Representative  Drummond read                                                               
the  bill title  for  HB  259, which  read  as follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
       "An Act relating to containing or confining loads                                                                        
     being transported on highways."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   DRUMMOND   related    her   understanding   that                                                               
"highways"  has a  limited definition  in Alaska.   She  recalled                                                               
that Alaska  has seven or  eight numbered highways in  the state,                                                               
including  the  Seward,  Glenn,  Parks,  Sterling,  Johansen  and                                                               
Dalton highways.   She  stated that  the state-operated  roads in                                                               
her district  would include  5th and  6th Avenues,  which becomes                                                               
the  Glenn Highway.    She asked  if a  truck  with an  unsecured                                                               
vehicle load was  driving on 5th or 6th Avenues  in Anchorage and                                                               
debris fell on another vehicle  causing "serious physical injury"                                                               
whether Version I of HB 259 would apply.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING said  he was not certain.  He  pointed out that Egan                                                               
[Drive] is also a state highway  [AK-7] in Juneau.  He offered to                                                               
research  it  further with  the  Legislative  Legal and  Research                                                               
Services attorney [and report back to the committee].                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:54:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN stated  the  bill  amends Alaska  Statutes                                                               
(AS) 28 relating  to the motor vehicle code.   He referred to the                                                               
definition  in   AS  28.90.990(a)(14),  which  read   as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     (14)  highway  means  the   entire  width  between  the                                                                    
     boundary   lines  of   every  way   that  is   publicly                                                                    
     maintained when a part of it  is open to the public for                                                                    
     purposes  of   vehicular  travel,  including   but  not                                                                    
     limited  to every  street and  the Alaska  state marine                                                                    
     highway system but not vehicular ways or areas;                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  said  that  this bill  would  make  it  a                                                               
potential  criminal offense,  a  misdemeanor  [for not  confining                                                               
vehicle  loads].   An argument  could  be made  that this  should                                                               
reference the definition  for "highway" under Title  11, which is                                                               
the criminal  code.   He then  referred to  the definition  in AS                                                               
11.900(a)(30), which read [original punctuation provided]:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     (30) highway  means a  public road,  road right-of-way,                                                                    
     street, alley,  bridge, walk,  trail, tunnel,  path, or                                                                    
     similar  or related  facility, as  well as  ferries and                                                                    
     similar or related facilities;                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:54:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WOOL commented that the  definition [in AS 11.900] would                                                               
broadly cover anywhere a person  could drive a car, a skateboard,                                                               
or a  bicycle; that the bill  would apply to a  person driving an                                                               
uncovered load on any road, such  as the Parks Highway or Spenard                                                               
Road.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING said he had missed  the definition in the bill; that                                                               
he had not realized the definition of highway was so broad.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:56:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP   commented  on   one  way  to   narrow  the                                                               
definition for "highway."  He referred  to page 1, line 5, to add                                                               
"for motor  vehicle use," after  highway, which would  then read,                                                               
"on  a  highway for  motor  vehicle  use."   In  addition,  motor                                                               
vehicles   as  defined   in  statute   include  motorcycles   and                                                               
automobiles.    He  suggested  that   the  definitions  could  be                                                               
modified  in the  House Judiciary  Standing Committee.   He  said                                                               
that committee members conceptually  understand the intent of the                                                               
bill, which is  to provide public protection  from motor vehicles                                                               
on  highways.   Currently,  some small  communities with  traffic                                                               
counts of less than 500 per  day are not subject to Department of                                                               
Transportation  & Public  Facilities (DOT&PF)  regulations, which                                                               
provides  an exemption  that allows  [all-terrain vehicles  (ATV)                                                               
known  as]  four-wheelers  or  snow machines  on  roadways.    He                                                               
suggested  including such  an  exemption [in  HB  259] would  not                                                               
violate the  spirit of the  bill, which  is to protect  people in                                                               
significant traffic areas from the  risks of unsecured loads.  He                                                               
reiterated his understanding  that the sponsor's goal  is to have                                                               
the bill applicable to the interstate road system.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:58:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WOOL  said he  was unsure of  the bill  sponsor's intent                                                               
with respect  to the specific  "highways" that would  be affected                                                               
by the bill.   He asked for further clarification  on whether the                                                               
sponsor intended to have [the  unsecured load restrictions apply]                                                               
to vehicles on any road or  if it would be restricted to roadways                                                               
over a certain speed limit.   He also wondered whether the public                                                               
would need  the same protection  from a vehicle with  an unsecure                                                               
load being  driven 20  miles per  hour on  a dirt  road as  for a                                                               
vehicle being  driven on Minnesota  Drive in  Anchorage traveling                                                               
at 50 miles per hour without confining its load.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   STUTES   responded  that   Representative   Kopp                                                               
previously captured  the gist of the  bill.  She agreed  that the                                                               
bill  could  be  fine-tuned  in   the  House  Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee  because of  its  expertise.   She  clarified that  her                                                               
intent  was to  address  public safety  concerns  on the  highly-                                                               
traveled main roads in Alaska.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:59:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  said that the  bill would still  apply to                                                               
the Alaska Marine Highway System  (AMHS), so he surmised it would                                                               
apply to  vehicles on a  ferry.   He asked whether  the committee                                                               
would want  to restrict the bill  to numbered highways or  if the                                                               
sponsor  preferred HB  259  to be  more  expansive and  encompass                                                               
other roads.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES  responded  that  HB 259  should  be  more                                                               
expansive than numbered highways in Alaska.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:59:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WOOL pointed  out  that  the definition  Representative                                                               
Claman  previously read  for "highway"  in  [AS 11.81]  addresses                                                               
ferries and considers  a "highway" as any road leading  up to the                                                               
AMHS but  the definition does  not necessarily apply  to vehicles                                                               
being transported  on the marine  vessel itself.  Thus,  the bill                                                               
restrictions  would apply  to drivers  driving a  vehicle on  the                                                               
road to  the ferry; however,  it would  not apply to  the vehicle                                                               
while  it was  being  transported  via a  ferry  traveling at  12                                                               
knots, since the risk of an  uncovered load would be minimal.  He                                                               
also  suggested  the  committee  may wish  to  strike  a  balance                                                               
between "highways"  and "every road,"  perhaps applying  to types                                                               
of roads that are somewhat in the middle.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:00:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES   reiterated  that  the   definitions  for                                                               
"highway"  could be  fine-tuned in  the House  Judiciary Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:00:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND said she hoped  that HB 259 would protect                                                               
motorists  [from unsecured  loads] on  every road  in the  state,                                                               
including Main Street in Juneau, as  well as the Walter J. Hickel                                                               
[Parkway] in Anchorage.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES answered that would be the intent.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:01:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN   asked  for   the  liability   a  driver                                                               
currently  incurs if  debris from  a vehicle  with an  unconfined                                                               
load caused serious injury to another person.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GRUENING answered  that under  current law,  it would  be an                                                               
infraction, which  is a  traffic violation  subject to  a maximum                                                               
$300 fine.   He acknowledged that vehicle  drivers with unsecured                                                               
loads that  injure parties could potentially  violate other laws;                                                               
however, it would  depend on factors, such as  whether the driver                                                               
acted  with criminal  intent or  whether the  crime of  "reckless                                                               
driving" applied.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:02:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN   asked  whether   the  driver   in  that                                                               
situation would be subject to civil liability.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. GRUENING  answered yes; that  civil recourse is  available in                                                               
almost all cases.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:02:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WOOL   recapped  that  the  committee   determined  the                                                               
definition of "highway" was more  broadly defined by statute than                                                               
was initially intended by the  sponsor.  The committee, including                                                               
the  bill sponsor,  agreed that  the next  committee of  referral                                                               
should narrow the definition of  "highway" such that it would not                                                               
encompass every road but would  apply to more roads than numbered                                                               
roadways in Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:03:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WOOL, after  first determining no one  further wished to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on HB 259.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:03:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES moved  to  report  the proposed  committee                                                               
substitute (CS) for HB 259,  labeled 30-LS0917\I, Martin, 2/5/18,                                                               
[Version I] out of committee  with individual recommendations and                                                               
the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[The motion was left on the table.]                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:03 p.m. to 2:04 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:04:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    STUTES    restated   her    previous    motion.                                                               
Representative  Stutes moved  to  report  the proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for HB  259,  Version  I, labeled  30-LS0917\I,                                                               
Martin, 2/5/18, out of  committee with individual recommendations                                                               
and the accompanying fiscal note.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eastman objected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:05:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  acknowledged  that it  was  unique  that                                                               
several  committee  members also  serve  on  the House  Judiciary                                                               
Standing  Committee, which  is the  next  committee of  referral;                                                               
however,  he said  he prefers  to modify  a bill  to improve  it,                                                               
rather than to pass it on to another committee.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:05:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll  call vote  was  taken.   Representatives  Wool,  Claman,                                                               
Drummond,  Kopp, Stutes  voted in  favor of  moving the  proposed                                                               
committee  substitute  (CS)  for  HB  259,  labeled  30-LS0917\I,                                                               
Martin, 2/5/18 from the committee.   Representative Eastman voted                                                               
against it.   Therefore,  the CSHB 259(TRA)  was reported  out of                                                               
the House Transportation Standing Committee by a vote of 5-1.                                                                   

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CSHB 259 ver I 2.5.18.PDF HTRA 2/8/2018 1:00:00 PM
HB 259
HB 259 Explanation of Changes ver I 2.7.18.PDF HTRA 2/8/2018 1:00:00 PM
HB 259
HB 259 Fiscal Note-DOT 2.5.18.pdf HTRA 2/8/2018 1:00:00 PM
HB 259
HB 259 ver T Sponsor Statement.pdf HTRA 2/8/2018 1:00:00 PM
HB 259
HB 259 ver T Sectional Analysis.pdf HTRA 2/8/2018 1:00:00 PM
HB 259
HB 259 ver T.PDF HTRA 2/8/2018 1:00:00 PM
HB 259
HB259 Additional Document-Leg. Research Report.pdf HTRA 2/8/2018 1:00:00 PM
HB 259
HB259-Supporting Document-Governor's Proclamation-Secure Your Load Day.pdf HTRA 2/8/2018 1:00:00 PM
HB 259
HB259-Supporting Document-Municipality of Anchorage Proclamation.pdf HTRA 2/8/2018 1:00:00 PM
HB 259
HB259-Supporting Document-Unsecured Load Incident Articles.pdf HTRA 2/8/2018 1:00:00 PM
HB 259